From	Michael E. Mann	Date	Tue, 10 Jun 2003 11:18:17 -0400
To	Phil Jones, Scott Rutherford
CC	Keith Briffa, Tim Osborn
Subject	Re: Figure 1
Sounds great on all counts. Kevin's comments are all good ones, mike At 04:09 PM 6/10/2003 +0100, Phil Jones wrote: Scott, Seems OK. we will send both figures and the text for one last look through today. Trying now to incorporate Kevin's comments. Cheers Phil At 10:48 10/06/03 -0400, Scott Rutherford wrote: Phil and others, Here is a revised figure. What do you think? Scott On Tuesday, June 10, 2003, at 07:21 AM, Phil Jones wrote: Scott (and Mike if he's still there), The three of us have been through the text, Fig 1 and decided what to put in Fig 2. Tim is doing Fig 2 (9 long series - we'll send when we have it). I'm modifying the text slightly - adding in refs that are missing (mostly with Fig 2) and generally tidying up. Keith is working on the final sentence of the penultimate para. We all agree with this, but it could be misinterpreted - so trying to avoid this. WRT Fig 1. There are quite a few changes we think would improve things and make it more consistent, all to the labelling. 1. Add et al to Bauer and Gerber (twice). 2. Years only in for Mann et al., so this is the only one where refs would be ambiguous. 3. So, Briffa et al 2000 becomes Briffa and Osborn 1999 4. Briffa et al, 2001 becomes Briffa et al . 5 Remove Long instrumental - the orange line from the plot and key. It isn't explained in the caption, nor in the text. 6. As the grey line may not be seen under the grey shading, we think that all lines should be as thin as the grey one. Some are thicker than others - can all be the same thinness. 7. Back to key, change Optimal borehole (Mann et al, 2003) to Mann et al. 2003 (Optimal borehole) for consistency with the others. 8 . Most important is the SCALING. Needs to be clear which are scaled (to annual) and which aren't. Text in caption is ambiguous. So can you tell us which is scaled (to annual) and which aren't. If they are scaled then key should say - scaled 1856-1980 as with Jones et al . Does this apply to Briffa and Osborn and to Briffa et al (the grey and orange lines). 9. Whilst on scaling are all scaled or regressed? Scaling we think of as giving the same mean and variance. Regression does this also but which has been used. 10. Finally, Figure would look good with a thin black line along the zero line from 0 to 2000. Call me or Tim if anything you don't follow. Try Mike as well. I sent him an email earlier today and he'd already put his reply message up for the next 4-5 weeks. Cheers Phil At 12:25 09/06/03 -0400, Scott Rutherford wrote: Mike and Phil, Attached is figure 1. The format is Adobe Illustrator with an embedded PDF. You can view it in Acrobat. Let me know if you have questions. Regards, Scott ______________________________________________ Scott Rutherford Marine Research Scientist Graduate School of Oceanography University of Rhode Island e-mail: srutherford@gso.uri.edu phone: (401) 874-6599 fax: (401) 874-6811 snail mail: South Ferry Road Narragansett, RI 02882 Prof. Phil Jones Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090 School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784 University of East Anglia Norwich Email p.jones@uea.ac.uk NR4 7TJ UK ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- ______________________________________________ Scott Rutherford Marine Research Scientist Graduate School of Oceanography University of Rhode Island e-mail: srutherford@gso.uri.edu phone: (401) 874-6599 fax: (401) 874-6811 snail mail: South Ferry Road Narragansett, RI 02882 Prof. Phil Jones Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090 School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784 University of East Anglia Norwich Email p.jones@uea.ac.uk NR4 7TJ UK ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________ Professor Michael E. Mann Department of Environmental Sciences, Clark Hall University of Virginia Charlottesville, VA 22903 _______________________________________________________________________ e-mail: mann@virginia.edu Phone: (434) 924-7770 FAX: (434) 982-2137 [1]http://www.evsc.virginia.edu/faculty/people/mann.shtml References 1. http://www.evsc.virginia.edu/faculty/people/mann.shtml