FromKeith BriffaDateThu Jul 21 15:43:01 2005
ToRicardo Villalba
CCJonathan T. Overpeck, Ed Cook, Eystein Jansen, Tim Osborn
SubjectRe: the regional section and MWP Figure
Ricardo
Tim is contacting Henry now - so forget Boreholes for time being
cheers
Keith
At 15:23 21/07/2005, Ricardo Villalba wrote:

Hi Keith and all,
Following Peck's advise I will include for each reconstruction the observed
record. Obviously, I have the Patagonian instrumental records, but I need
from Ed the Tasmania and Hokitika (New Zealand) observed records.
Sorry for my ignorance on borehole, but I am not familiar with Henry's work.
If you send me his e-mail, I could ask him for the data and a line of text
on borehole from the SH. Cheers,
Ricardo
----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Briffa"
To: "Ricardo Villalba" ; "Jonathan Overpeck"

Cc: ;
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 4:51 AM
Subject: Re: the regional section and MWP Figure
Hi Ricardo and all
this all seems fine with me - the question of the temperature observations
is a moot one - but some included seems a good idea - 1 South American and
1 New Zealand is fine - length not as important as proximity to the
records shown (but need to see what they l;look like).
will wait on other numbers - Henry is best qualified to cite most
appropriate SH borehole data and could supply a line of text . Ricardo can
you ask him for these?
best wishes
Keith
At 13:52 20/07/2005, Ricardo Villalba wrote:
>Hi Keith, Ed, Peck, Eystein
>
>
>
>Regarding Peck's suggestions,
>
>
>1) should we include instrumental data? If not, it could lessen the impact.
>
>
>
>Rio de Janeiro, starting in 1851, is the longest, homogeneous temperature
>record from the Southern Hemisphere. In New Zealand and Australia,
>temperature records start at the same time. We do not have any long record
>for the 18th century, even the first half of the 19th century. The
>hemispheric record from the Southern Hemisphere will be discussed in
Chapter
>2 and we do not have any additional information to provide.
>
>
>2) we need to include the two borehole (see previous email from me and Ed)
>
>
>
>Definitely!! I do not have the records here in Mendoza. Keith, do you have
>access to these data? As soon as I receive the borehole records I will
>incorporate them in the figures. I would appreciate receiving the key
>references to properly cite the records.
>
>
>3) we would like to ask Keith and Tim (pretty
>please...) to draft the final figure so that it
>matches the other in the section and MWP box. Is
>this ok, and do you have the data to do the job.
>If not, we trust your kind colleagues can send
>upon request?
>
>
>
>At the time the figure is ready, I will send all the data to Keith and Tim
>to draft the final figure, and the final text to incorporate in the FOD.
>Cheers,
>
>Ricardo
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jonathan Overpeck"
>To: "Ricardo Villalba"
>Cc: "Keith Briffa" ; ;
>"Eystein Jansen"
>Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 5:55 PM
>Subject: Re: the regional section and MWP Figure
>
>
>Hi SH gang - Thanks for keeping things moving
>Ricardo. Eystein and I just discussed this fig on
>the phone and would like to suggest the following:
>
>1) should we include instrumental data? If not, it could lessen the impact.
>2) we need to include the two borehole (see previous email from me and Ed)
>3) we would like to ask Keith and Tim (pretty
>please...) to draft the final figure so that it
>matches the other in the section and MWP box. Is
>this ok, and do you have the data to do the job.
>If not, we trust your kind colleagues can send
>upon request?
>
>Many thanks, Peck and Eystein
>
> >Dear Keith and Ed,
> >
> >Please, find attached the new version of the SH figure for the IPCC. I
>have
> >now included the New Zealand record. All the records have been scaled to
4
> >°C amplitude. Variability in the Tas record is reduced compared to New
> >Zealand and Patagonian records. The reference lines is the mean used for
>the
> >calibration period in each record, 15 C for New Zealand, 14.95 C for
> >Tasmania and 0 C for the Patagonian records (they show departures).
Please,
> >let me know if you want to introduce some changes in the figure. The
> >opposite phase in the Patagonia-New Zealand records is so clear before
>1850,
> >which is consistent with our previous TPI. For instance, in the
>instrumental
> >record the 1971 and 1976 are the coolest summer in northern Patagonian
> >during the past 70 years, but the warmest in New Zealand reconstruction!!
> >This out of phase relationship between regions in the Southern Hemisphere
> >points out to the difficulty of using few records to get a hemispheric
> >average. Cheers,
> >
> >Ricardo
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Jonathan Overpeck"
> >To: "edwardcook"
> >Cc: "Keith Briffa" <>; "Ricardo Villalba" ;
> >"Eystein Jansen" <>
> >Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 1:09 PM
> >Subject: Re: the regional section and MWP Figure
> >
> >
> >Thanks Ed - Ricardo, can you get the data from Henry? What do you think,
> >Keith?
> >Best, Peck
> >
> >>Given the nature of the SH and what Ricardo put
> >>together, I would keep the Australian and South
> >>Aftrican borehole records separate. Henry
> >>Pollack can provide them, I am sure. He gave an
> >>excellent talk at a meeting in Canberra that I
> >>recently participated in.
> >>
> >>Cheers,
> >>
> >>Ed
> >>
> >>P.S. Ricardo, here is the Oroko temperature reconstruction.
> >>
> >>JANUARY-MARCH TEMPERATURES RECONSTRUCTED FROM
> >>OROKO SWAMP, NEW ZEALAND SILVER PINE TREE RINGS
> >>BE ADVISED THAT THE DATA AFTER 1958 ARE INSTRUMENTAL
> >>TEMPERATURES
> >> YEAR TEMP °C
> >> 900 13.751
> >> 901 14.461
> >> 902 13.236
> >> 903 13.331
> >> 904 13.483
> >> 905 13.632
> >> 906 12.959
> >> 907 13.628
> >> 908 13.372
> >> 909 12.868
> >> 910 13.244
> >> 911 13.793
> >> 912 14.048
> >> 913 14.444
> >> 914 13.095
> >> 915 14.036
> >> 916 13.215
> >> 917 13.698
> >> 918 13.570
> >> 919 13.665
> >> 920 13.871
> >> 921 13.966
> >> 922 14.762
> >> 923 14.325
> >> 924 14.077
> >> 925 14.713
> >> 926 14.081
> >> 927 14.218
> >> 928 13.793
> >> 929 14.151
> >> 930 14.985
> >> 931 13.599
> >> 932 14.663
> >> 933 14.110
> >> 934 14.968
> >> 935 14.391
> >> 936 15.484
> >> 937 15.554
> >> 938 14.977
> >> 939 15.303
> >> 940 15.179
> >> 941 15.591
> >> 942 14.737
> >> 943 14.007
> >> 944 14.865
> >> 945 14.449
> >> 946 14.350
> >> 947 15.096
> >> 948 15.257
> >> 949 15.789
> >> 950 15.303
> >> 951 15.513
> >> 952 16.111
> >> 953 15.723
> >> 954 15.459
> >> 955 14.015
> >> 956 13.083
> >> 957 13.850
> >> 958 14.069
> >> 959 13.772
> >> 960 14.873
> >> 961 14.692
> >> 962 14.923
> >> 963 14.527
> >> 964 15.034
> >> 965 14.688
> >> 966 14.486
> >> 967 14.444
> >> 968 14.436
> >> 969 13.776
> >> 970 13.809
> >> 971 14.391
> >> 972 13.487
> >> 973 13.995
> >> 974 14.061
> >> 975 14.321
> >> 976 14.882
> >> 977 14.226
> >> 978 14.977
> >> 979 15.447
> >> 980 14.424
> >> 981 14.923
> >> 982 14.180
> >> 983 15.484
> >> 984 13.487
> >> 985 14.168
> >> 986 14.176
> > > 987 15.699
> >> 988 15.187
> >> 989 16.305
> >> 990 14.845
> >> 991 14.647
> >> 992 15.765
> >> 993 14.754
> >> 994 14.271
> >> 995 13.623
> >> 996 14.300
> >> 997 13.937
> >> 998 14.040
> >> 999 14.011
> >> 1000 12.976
> >> 1001 13.904
> >> 1002 13.500
> >> 1003 13.586
> >> 1004 14.090
> >> 1005 13.809
> >> 1006 13.413
> >> 1007 13.318
> >> 1008 13.892
> >> 1009 14.151
> >> 1010 14.391
> >> 1011 13.793
> >> 1012 14.626
> >> 1013 13.755
> >> 1014 13.838
> >> 1015 13.017
> > > 1016 13.083
> >> 1017 13.549
> >> 1018 13.471
> >> 1019 13.087
> >> 1020 13.458
> >> 1021 13.203
> >> 1022 14.090
> >> 1023 13.574
> >> 1024 13.755
> >> 1025 13.826
> >> 1026 13.137
> >> 1027 13.194
> >> 1028 14.036
> >> 1029 13.091
> >> 1030 13.768
> >> 1031 13.813
> >> 1032 13.846
> >> 1033 13.871
> >> 1034 14.255
> >> 1035 14.370
> >> 1036 13.805
> >> 1037 14.576
> >> 1038 13.504
> >> 1039 13.867
> >> 1040 14.927
> >> 1041 14.420
> >> 1042 15.661
> >> 1043 15.484
> >> 1044 15.595
> >> 1045 14.741
> >> 1046 13.644
> >> 1047 14.271
> >> 1048 14.288
> >> 1049 13.661
> >> 1050 13.665
> >> 1051 13.298
> >> 1052 14.003
> >> 1053 13.826
> >> 1054 13.788
> >> 1055 13.768
> >> 1056 12.976
> >> 1057 13.397
> >> 1058 13.529
> >> 1059 13.549
> >> 1060 13.846
> >> 1061 14.032
> >> 1062 14.820
> >> 1063 13.962
> >> 1064 14.279
> >> 1065 14.151
> >> 1066 14.358
> >> 1067 14.131
> >> 1068 13.652
> >> 1069 13.941
> >> 1070 14.007
> >> 1071 14.403
> >> 1072 13.764
> >> 1073 13.982
> >> 1074 13.846
> >> 1075 13.830
> >> 1076 13.450
> >> 1077 13.632
> >> 1078 13.265
> >> 1079 13.331
> >> 1080 14.267
> >> 1081 13.644
> >> 1082 13.549
> >> 1083 13.557
> >> 1084 13.549
> >> 1085 14.725
> >> 1086 13.479
> >> 1087 12.848
> >> 1088 12.559
> >> 1089 12.926
> >> 1090 13.793
> >> 1091 14.387
> >> 1092 14.531
> >> 1093 14.114
> >> 1094 14.754
> >> 1095 14.688
> >> 1096 14.845
> >> 1097 14.729
> >> 1098 15.059
> >> 1099 15.059
> >> 1100 15.055
> >> 1101 16.057
> >> 1102 15.208
> >> 1103 15.492
> >> 1104 14.519
> >> 1105 14.741
> >> 1106 14.151
> >> 1107 15.005
> >> 1108 13.640
> >> 1109 13.652
> >> 1110 13.566
> >> 1111 13.978
> >> 1112 14.424
> >> 1113 14.180
> >> 1114 14.931
> >> 1115 14.601
> >> 1116 14.403
> >> 1117 14.391
> >> 1118 14.981
> >> 1119 15.125
> >> 1120 13.817
> >> 1121 12.897
> >> 1122 13.863
> >> 1123 14.271
> >> 1124 14.857
> >> 1125 14.882
> >> 1126 14.762
> >> 1127 14.548
> >> 1128 14.403
> >> 1129 14.667
> >> 1130 14.572
> >> 1131 14.057
> >> 1132 14.556
> >> 1133 15.018
> >> 1134 13.892
> >> 1135 13.995
> >> 1136 13.982
> >> 1137 14.853
> >> 1138 14.779
> >> 1139 15.129
> >> 1140 15.117
> >> 1141 14.849
> >> 1142 15.228
> >> 1143 15.216
> >> 1144 15.030
> >> 1145 14.428
> >> 1146 15.063
> >> 1147 15.216
> >> 1148 15.043
> >> 1149 15.034
> >> 1150 14.370
> >> 1151 15.096
> >> 1152 15.410
> >> 1153 15.719
> >> 1154 16.577
> >> 1155 15.769
> >> 1156 15.364
> >> 1157 15.855
> >> 1158 15.422
> >> 1159 14.515
> >> 1160 15.810
> >> 1161 15.628
> >> 1162 15.402
> >> 1163 15.092
> >> 1164 15.298
> >> 1165 14.865
> >> 1166 14.882
> >> 1167 15.274
> >> 1168 14.605
> >> 1169 14.746
> >> 1170 15.472
> >> 1171 15.509
> >> 1172 15.018
> >> 1173 15.369
> >> 1174 15.084
> >> 1175 15.855
> >> 1176 14.795
> >> 1177 15.571
> >> 1178 14.255
> >> 1179 14.510
> >> 1180 14.865
> >> 1181 14.036
> >> 1182 14.688
> >> 1183 14.713
> >> 1184 14.519
> >> 1185 14.255
> >> 1186 15.204
> >> 1187 14.461
> >> 1188 15.476
> >> 1189 14.882
> >> 1190 15.005
> >> 1191 14.453
> >> 1192 14.729
> >> 1193 15.265
> >> 1194 14.444
> >> 1195 14.696
> >> 1196 15.793
> >> 1197 14.581
> >> 1198 15.014
> >> 1199 14.539
> >> 1200 14.044
> >> 1201 14.733
> >> 1202 14.853
> >> 1203 15.298
> >> 1204 13.772
> >> 1205 13.991
> >> 1206 14.651
> >> 1207 14.836
> >> 1208 14.440
> >> 1209 15.162
> >> 1210 14.766
> >> 1211 15.010
> >> 1212 15.356
> >> 1213 14.787
> >> 1214 15.645
> >> 1215 15.435
> >> 1216 15.043
> >> 1217 15.063
> >> 1218 14.151
> >> 1219 15.397
> >> 1220 15.154
> >> 1221 15.892
> >> 1222 15.488
> >> 1223 15.938
> >> 1224 15.525
> >> 1225 15.591
> >> 1226 14.589
> >> 1227 15.496
> >> 1228 15.963
> >> 1229 14.502
> >> 1230 14.457
> >> 1231 15.468
> >> 1232 14.985
> >> 1233 15.282
> >> 1234 14.989
> >> 1235 15.237
> >> 1236 15.711
> >> 1237 15.888
> >> 1238 14.259
> >> 1239 14.560
> >> 1240 15.711
> >> 1241 15.195
> >> 1242 15.484
> >> 1243 15.166
> > > 1244 16.020
> >> 1245 16.454
> >> 1246 15.480
> >> 1247 15.492
> >> 1248 16.528
> >> 1249 15.150
> >> 1250 14.436
> >> 1251 14.878
> >> 1252 15.723
> >> 1253 15.043
> >> 1254 15.121
> >> 1255 14.845
> >> 1256 14.807
> >> 1257 14.482
> >> 1258 14.585
> >> 1259 15.307
> >> 1260 15.100
> >> 1261 14.354
> >> 1262 13.995
> >> 1263 14.106
> >> 1264 14.403
> >> 1265 14.754
> >> 1266 14.581
> >> 1267 14.799
> >> 1268 14.378
> >> 1269 14.671
> >> 1270 14.193
> >> 1271 14.387
> >> 1272 14.453
> > > 1273 14.510
> >> 1274 15.187
> >> 1275 15.393
> >> 1276 14.498
> >> 1277 14.560
> >> 1278 15.022
> >> 1279 14.498
> >> 1280 14.725
> >> 1281 13.549
> >> 1282 14.977
> >> 1283 14.065
> >> 1284 14.024
> >> 1285 13.603
> >> 1286 15.220
> >> 1287 15.080
> >> 1288 14.898
> >> 1289 14.774
> >> 1290 15.542
> >> 1291 15.212
> >> 1292 14.267
> >> 1293 14.692
> >> 1294 13.644
> >> 1295 14.222
> >> 1296 15.038
> >> 1297 14.721
> >> 1298 15.682
> >> 1299 13.896
> >> 1300 14.766
> >> 1301 14.836
> >> 1302 14.370
> >> 1303 14.812
> >> 1304 14.812
> >> 1305 13.673
> >> 1306 14.036
> >> 1307 13.929
> >> 1308 14.807
> >> 1309 14.114
> >> 1310 13.446
> >> 1311 13.368
> >> 1312 14.168
> >> 1313 14.989
> >> 1314 14.292
> >> 1315 14.985
> >> 1316 14.123
> >> 1317 14.321
> >> 1318 13.966
> >> 1319 14.325
> >> 1320 14.647
> >> 1321 14.622
> >> 1322 14.279
> >> 1323 14.510
> >> 1324 13.689
> >> 1325 13.450
> >> 1326 14.197
> >> 1327 13.867
> >> 1328 14.205
> >> 1329 14.779
> >> 1330 14.350
> >> 1331 14.729
> >> 1332 13.479
> >> 1333 13.974
> >> 1334 14.453
> >> 1335 14.535
> >> 1336 15.402
> >> 1337 14.424
> >> 1338 14.399
> >> 1339 14.906
> >> 1340 15.430
> >> 1341 14.531
> >> 1342 15.785
> >> 1343 15.513
> >> 1344 15.220
> >> 1345 15.352
> >> 1346 15.443
> >> 1347 15.410
> >> 1348 15.777
> >> 1349 14.902
> >> 1350 14.576
> >> 1351 14.605
> >> 1352 14.168
> >> 1353 14.601
> >> 1354 15.414
> >> 1355 14.300
> >> 1356 14.630
> >> 1357 15.170
> >> 1358 14.919
> >> 1359 14.688
> >> 1360 14.081
> >> 1361 14.799
> >> 1362 14.581
> >> 1363 15.133
> >> 1364 13.838
> >> 1365 14.708
> >> 1366 13.149
> >> 1367 13.281
> >> 1368 13.760
> >> 1369 14.123
> >> 1370 13.314
> >> 1371 14.523
> >> 1372 14.267
> >> 1373 14.226
> >> 1374 14.044
> >> 1375 14.271
> >> 1376 15.307
> >> 1377 14.684
> >> 1378 14.168
> >> 1379 14.473
> >> 1380 13.578
> >> 1381 13.586
> >> 1382 13.999
> >> 1383 13.991
> >> 1384 13.710
> >> 1385 14.411
> >> 1386 13.867
> >> 1387 14.255
> >> 1388 13.611
> >> 1389 13.974
> >> 1390 13.916
> >> 1391 13.615
> >> 1392 14.440
> >> 1393 14.787
> >> 1394 15.880
> >> 1395 16.297
> >> 1396 16.289
> >> 1397 15.170
> >> 1398 16.082
> >> 1399 15.463
> >> 1400 14.366
> >> 1401 14.758
> >> 1402 14.902
> >> 1403 14.568
> >> 1404 15.158
> >> 1405 15.579
> >> 1406 13.966
> >> 1407 13.970
> >> 1408 13.772
> >> 1409 14.523
> >> 1410 14.498
> >> 1411 14.791
> >> 1412 14.007
> >> 1413 15.818
> >> 1414 13.974
> >> 1415 13.776
> >> 1416 13.760
> >> 1417 14.407
> >> 1418 14.498
> >> 1419 14.515
> >> 1420 14.341
> >> 1421 14.374
> >> 1422 13.677
> >> 1423 14.354
> >> 1424 13.223
> >> 1425 13.801
> >> 1426 14.560
> >> 1427 14.374
> >> 1428 14.494
> >> 1429 15.051
> >> 1430 14.836
> >> 1431 13.999
> >> 1432 14.341
> >> 1433 14.865
> >> 1434 15.063
> >> 1435 15.311
> >> 1436 15.765
> >> 1437 15.789
> >> 1438 15.204
> >> 1439 15.298
> >> 1440 15.257
> >> 1441 15.443
> >> 1442 14.737
> >> 1443 15.385
> >> 1444 15.723
> >> 1445 14.717
> >> 1446 15.088
> >> 1447 15.253
> >> 1448 14.477
> >> 1449 16.004
> >> 1450 14.581
> >> 1451 14.449
> >> 1452 14.993
> >> 1453 14.151
> >> 1454 14.556
> >> 1455 14.366
> >> 1456 14.601
> >> 1457 13.813
> >> 1458 14.242
> >> 1459 15.047
> >> 1460 14.919
> >> 1461 14.300
> >> 1462 15.010
> >> 1463 14.139
> >> 1464 15.001
> >> 1465 14.873
> >> 1466 15.406
> >> 1467 14.399
> >> 1468 14.671
> >> 1469 15.092
> >> 1470 14.337
> >> 1471 14.948
> >> 1472 15.047
> >> 1473 14.523
> >> 1474 14.680
> >> 1475 14.395
> >> 1476 15.661
> >> 1477 15.158
> >> 1478 15.414
> >> 1479 15.641
> >> 1480 15.909
> >> 1481 15.748
> >> 1482 14.708
> >> 1483 14.981
> >> 1484 14.659
> >> 1485 15.113
> >> 1486 14.754
> >> 1487 15.740
> >> 1488 15.327
> >> 1489 15.125
> >> 1490 15.026
> >> 1491 15.567
> >> 1492 15.265
> >> 1493 15.996
> >> 1494 16.326
> >> 1495 14.915
> >> 1496 15.831
> >> 1497 14.845
> >> 1498 15.670
> >> 1499 16.156
> >> 1500 15.864
> > > 1501 15.831
> >> 1502 16.581
> >> 1503 15.212
> >> 1504 15.534
> >> 1505 15.270
> >> 1506 15.492
> >> 1507 15.633
> >> 1508 14.420
> >> 1509 15.723
> >> 1510 14.816
> >> 1511 15.282
> >> 1512 15.641
> >> 1513 14.655
> >> 1514 14.510
> >> 1515 13.508
> >> 1516 14.172
> >> 1517 14.251
> >> 1518 13.628
> >> 1519 13.698
> >> 1520 13.405
> >> 1521 13.920
> >> 1522 13.974
> >> 1523 13.978
> >> 1524 14.238
> >> 1525 14.003
> >> 1526 13.298
> >> 1527 13.694
> >> 1528 15.005
> >> 1529 14.218
> > > 1530 14.110
> >> 1531 14.593
> >> 1532 13.916
> >> 1533 14.510
> >> 1534 14.057
> >> 1535 14.048
> >> 1536 13.673
> >> 1537 14.477
> >> 1538 14.090
> >> 1539 14.300
> >> 1540 14.374
> >> 1541 14.387
> >> 1542 14.085
> >> 1543 14.184
> >> 1544 14.597
> >> 1545 14.783
> >> 1546 15.348
> >> 1547 15.859
> >> 1548 15.835
> >> 1549 14.729
> >> 1550 15.451
> >> 1551 15.204
> >> 1552 15.022
> >> 1553 15.352
> >> 1554 14.251
> >> 1555 14.135
> >> 1556 14.609
> >> 1557 14.572
> >> 1558 15.224
> >> 1559 14.688
> >> 1560 14.618
> >> 1561 15.179
> >> 1562 14.399
> >> 1563 14.873
> >> 1564 13.652
> >> 1565 13.958
> >> 1566 15.595
> >> 1567 14.898
> >> 1568 13.595
> >> 1569 14.019
> >> 1570 15.030
> >> 1571 15.228
> >> 1572 15.241
> >> 1573 16.355
> >> 1574 14.865
> >> 1575 14.923
> >> 1576 15.542
> >> 1577 15.162
> >> 1578 14.956
> >> 1579 15.657
> >> 1580 15.208
> >> 1581 15.208
> >> 1582 15.166
> >> 1583 14.473
> >> 1584 14.052
> >> 1585 14.213
> >> 1586 14.568
> >> 1587 14.762
> >> 1588 14.288
> >> 1589 14.069
> >> 1590 13.929
> >> 1591 13.479
> >> 1592 14.044
> >> 1593 14.267
> >> 1594 14.288
> >> 1595 14.609
> >> 1596 14.362
> >> 1597 13.846
> >> 1598 14.098
> >> 1599 14.147
> >> 1600 14.783
> >> 1601 13.995
> >> 1602 13.925
> >> 1603 13.999
> >> 1604 14.688
> >> 1605 13.892
> >> 1606 15.410
> >> 1607 14.325
> >> 1608 15.241
> >> 1609 15.104
> >> 1610 14.531
> >> 1611 15.958
> >> 1612 14.597
> >> 1613 14.337
> >> 1614 14.647
> >> 1615 13.318
> >> 1616 14.424
> >> 1617 13.768
> >> 1618 14.779
> >> 1619 14.886
> >> 1620 14.065
> >> 1621 14.085
> >> 1622 14.626
> >> 1623 13.912
> >> 1624 13.487
> >> 1625 14.292
> >> 1626 13.075
> >> 1627 13.871
> >> 1628 13.850
> >> 1629 13.755
> >> 1630 14.680
> >> 1631 14.048
> >> 1632 14.601
> >> 1633 15.752
> >> 1634 14.420
> >> 1635 14.085
> >> 1636 14.230
> >> 1637 15.426
> >> 1638 16.322
> >> 1639 14.762
> >> 1640 14.882
> >> 1641 14.985
> >> 1642 14.931
> >> 1643 15.484
> >> 1644 15.843
> >> 1645 14.861
> >> 1646 14.284
> >> 1647 14.494
> >> 1648 14.935
> >> 1649 13.966
> >> 1650 14.296
> >> 1651 13.768
> >> 1652 15.001
> >> 1653 14.944
> >> 1654 15.418
> >> 1655 15.146
> >> 1656 14.915
> >> 1657 14.803
> >> 1658 14.638
> >> 1659 14.630
> >> 1660 14.052
> >> 1661 13.702
> >> 1662 14.081
> >> 1663 14.312
> >> 1664 14.197
> >> 1665 13.780
> >> 1666 14.292
> >> 1667 14.634
> >> 1668 13.768
> >> 1669 14.671
> >> 1670 14.246
> >> 1671 14.812
> >> 1672 15.216
> >> 1673 15.810
> >> 1674 14.869
> >> 1675 16.148
> >> 1676 14.977
> >> 1677 14.923
> >> 1678 15.488
> >> 1679 14.956
> >> 1680 14.098
> >> 1681 14.523
> >> 1682 15.327
> >> 1683 15.666
> >> 1684 15.554
> >> 1685 15.270
> >> 1686 15.492
> >> 1687 15.459
> >> 1688 14.754
> >> 1689 14.741
> >> 1690 14.700
> >> 1691 14.906
> >> 1692 13.904
> >> 1693 14.527
> >> 1694 15.063
> >> 1695 14.399
> >> 1696 15.096
> >> 1697 15.360
> >> 1698 15.694
> >> 1699 15.249
> >> 1700 14.779
> >> 1701 14.609
> >> 1702 15.336
> >> 1703 15.121
> >> 1704 15.154
> >> 1705 15.212
> >> 1706 14.750
> >> 1707 15.472
> >> 1708 14.164
> >> 1709 13.665
> >> 1710 14.213
> >> 1711 14.741
> >> 1712 15.521
> >> 1713 15.410
> >> 1714 14.519
> >> 1715 15.154
> >> 1716 14.597
> >> 1717 15.212
> >> 1718 14.688
> >> 1719 13.962
> >> 1720 15.109
> >> 1721 15.839
> >> 1722 15.765
> >> 1723 15.001
> >> 1724 15.389
> >> 1725 15.088
> >> 1726 14.655
> >> 1727 14.312
> >> 1728 14.824
> >> 1729 14.981
> >> 1730 13.640
> >> 1731 15.043
> >> 1732 13.953
> >> 1733 13.681
> >> 1734 14.036
> >> 1735 13.937
> >> 1736 14.832
> >> 1737 14.807
> >> 1738 14.325
> >> 1739 14.337
> >> 1740 14.680
> >> 1741 14.779
> >> 1742 14.255
> >> 1743 14.205
> >> 1744 14.024
> >> 1745 14.069
> >> 1746 15.216
> >> 1747 15.455
> >> 1748 15.447
> >> 1749 15.851
> >> 1750 15.253
> >> 1751 14.626
> >> 1752 15.294
> >> 1753 15.744
> >> 1754 15.158
> >> 1755 14.750
> >> 1756 15.319
> >> 1757 15.059
> > > 1758 15.195
> >> 1759 14.725
> >> 1760 14.609
> >> 1761 14.869
> >> 1762 15.212
> >> 1763 15.505
> >> 1764 14.634
> >> 1765 15.175
> >> 1766 14.552
> >> 1767 15.109
> >> 1768 14.312
> >> 1769 14.090
> >> 1770 14.246
> >> 1771 14.127
> >> 1772 14.667
> >> 1773 14.312
> >> 1774 14.659
> >> 1775 14.296
> >> 1776 14.527
> >> 1777 14.069
> >> 1778 15.005
> >> 1779 14.832
> >> 1780 15.146
> >> 1781 14.865
> >> 1782 14.102
> >> 1783 13.735
> >> 1784 14.510
> >> 1785 14.052
> >> 1786 14.795
> > > 1787 15.455
> >> 1788 15.298
> >> 1789 14.325
> >> 1790 14.927
> >> 1791 14.230
> >> 1792 14.230
> >> 1793 14.836
> >> 1794 15.637
> >> 1795 15.022
> >> 1796 14.473
> >> 1797 14.968
> >> 1798 14.028
> >> 1799 13.463
> >> 1800 14.151
> >> 1801 15.187
> >> 1802 15.290
> >> 1803 15.732
> >> 1804 14.985
> >> 1805 15.224
> >> 1806 16.251
> >> 1807 13.289
> >> 1808 14.420
> >> 1809 14.696
> >> 1810 14.568
> >> 1811 15.802
> >> 1812 16.082
> >> 1813 16.416
> >> 1814 16.082
> >> 1815 16.309
> >> 1816 15.967
> >> 1817 16.247
> >> 1818 15.208
> >> 1819 15.587
> >> 1820 15.323
> >> 1821 15.505
> >> 1822 14.812
> >> 1823 15.298
> >> 1824 15.022
> >> 1825 15.179
> >> 1826 15.967
> >> 1827 14.040
> >> 1828 14.449
> >> 1829 14.242
> >> 1830 14.548
> >> 1831 14.378
> >> 1832 15.137
> >> 1833 13.496
> >> 1834 14.081
> >> 1835 15.228
> >> 1836 14.700
> >> 1837 14.432
> >> 1838 14.927
> >> 1839 14.482
> >> 1840 15.175
> >> 1841 14.296
> >> 1842 14.762
> >> 1843 14.350
> >> 1844 14.770
> >> 1845 15.026
> >> 1846 14.688
> >> 1847 14.944
> >> 1848 15.088
> >> 1849 14.774
> >> 1850 14.865
> >> 1851 14.787
> >> 1852 14.527
> >> 1853 14.502
> >> 1854 15.183
> >> 1855 14.828
> >> 1856 15.270
> >> 1857 14.436
> >> 1858 14.721
> >> 1859 14.539
> >> 1860 14.407
> >> 1861 14.832
> >> 1862 14.271
> >> 1863 14.490
> >> 1864 13.953
> >> 1865 15.290
> >> 1866 14.473
> >> 1867 15.414
> >> 1868 14.440
> >> 1869 15.129
> >> 1870 15.022
> >> 1871 15.468
> >> 1872 14.993
> >> 1873 14.890
> >> 1874 14.638
> >> 1875 14.898
> >> 1876 14.993
> >> 1877 14.366
> >> 1878 14.333
> >> 1879 13.454
> >> 1880 15.369
> >> 1881 15.109
> >> 1882 15.187
> >> 1883 15.278
> >> 1884 14.308
> >> 1885 15.026
> >> 1886 15.385
> >> 1887 15.183
> >> 1888 14.127
> >> 1889 14.985
> >> 1890 15.480
> >> 1891 14.717
> >> 1892 15.773
> >> 1893 14.807
> >> 1894 15.451
> >> 1895 15.179
> >> 1896 13.780
> >> 1897 14.531
> >> 1898 13.912
> >> 1899 14.354
> >> 1900 15.290
> >> 1901 15.752
> >> 1902 14.886
> >> 1903 15.216
> >> 1904 15.938
> >> 1905 15.208
> >> 1906 14.279
> >> 1907 14.923
> >> 1908 15.022
> >> 1909 15.501
> >> 1910 15.633
> >> 1911 15.212
> >> 1912 13.648
> >> 1913 14.329
> >> 1914 15.389
> >> 1915 14.704
> >> 1916 15.983
> >> 1917 14.779
> >> 1918 14.432
> >> 1919 14.024
> >> 1920 14.040
> >> 1921 14.622
> >> 1922 15.315
> >> 1923 14.560
> >> 1924 15.835
> >> 1925 14.927
> >> 1926 14.812
> >> 1927 15.220
> >> 1928 16.433
> >> 1929 14.506
> >> 1930 14.535
> >> 1931 14.073
> >> 1932 14.440
> >> 1933 15.406
> >> 1934 14.708
> >> 1935 15.026
> >> 1936 14.106
> >> 1937 13.372
> >> 1938 14.663
> >> 1939 13.842
> >> 1940 13.879
> >> 1941 14.725
> >> 1942 14.510
> >> 1943 14.337
> >> 1944 15.133
> >> 1945 14.189
> >> 1946 14.048
> >> 1947 14.098
> >> 1948 14.923
> >> 1949 14.733
> >> 1950 14.581
> >> 1951 15.121
> >> 1952 14.073
> >> 1953 14.572
> >> 1954 14.106
> >> 1955 14.457
> >> 1956 14.849
> >> 1957 14.626
> >> 1958 15.374
> >> 1959 15.183
> >> 1960 14.970
> >> 1961 15.140
> >> 1962 15.289
> >> 1963 14.991
> >> 1964 14.395
> >> 1965 14.991
> >> 1966 15.587
> >> 1967 14.948
> >> 1968 14.948
> >> 1969 14.629
> >> 1970 15.779
> >> 1971 16.354
> >> 1972 15.247
> >> 1973 14.671
> >> 1974 15.353
> >> 1975 16.141
> >> 1976 14.586
> >> 1977 14.863
> >> 1978 15.332
> >> 1979 14.948
> >> 1980 14.906
> >> 1981 15.481
> >> 1982 14.991
> >> 1983 14.117
> >> 1984 15.353
> >> 1985 15.225
> >> 1986 15.587
> >> 1987 15.140
> >> 1988 14.863
> >> 1989 16.098
> >> 1990 15.417
> >> 1991 14.991
> >> 1992 14.096
> >> 1993 14.160
> >> 1994 15.183
> >> 1995 15.119
> >> 1996 15.630
> >> 1997 14.927
> >> 1998 15.417
> >> 1999 16.354
> >>
> >>On Jul 17, 2005, at 10:40 PM, Jonathan Overpeck wrote:
> >>
> >>>Thanks Ricardo and Ed! I personally am not a
> >>>big fan of the Jones and Mann SH recon. It is
> >>>based on so little. On the other hand, it is in
> >>>the literature. So, I leave it up to you and
> > >>Keith to decide - perhaps Eystein can weigh in
> >>>too.
> >>>
> >>>I do, however, think it would be really helpful
> >>>to included the borehole data (see prev.
> >>>emails) - either as a single SH curve, or
> >>>(probably better) two regional curves
> >>>(Australia and S. Africa). Is there a reason
> >>>this is not a good idea? Can't complain about
> >>>snow bias down there...
> >>>
> >>>Thanks again - I look forward to seeing the
> >>>next draft and figure - complete w/ borehole I
> > >>hope.
> >>>
> >>>thx, Peck
> >>>
> >>>>Hi Keith,
> >>>>
> >>>>Please, find attached my last version of the SH temp. As you know, Ed
> >Cook
> >>>>returned my original version of the SH with minor comments. Overall,
he
> >>>>agreed with the text. Still I am waiting from him the Oroco Swamp data
>to
> >>>>include in the Figure, which first draft I sent you more than a month
> >ago.
> >>>>
> >>>>In the last version I have included a first paragraph referring to the
> >Jones
> >>>>and Mann (2003) temperature reconstruction for the SH. At that time
we
> >have
> >>>>to decide if we want to have the hemispheric (Jones and Mann) and the
> >>>>regional views (Tasmania, New Zealand, Patagonia, maybe include
> >Antarctica
> >>>>(Ommem et al. 2005)), or just one of them. If we decide to stay with
the
> >>>>hemispheric view, we should include Jones and Mann reconstruction at
the
> >>>>bottom of one of your figures. In cases that we decide to maintain
both
> >>>>hemispheric and regional views, we should include Jones and Mann at
the
> >>>>bottom of my figure. Please, could you check with Peck and Eystein to
> >see
> >>>>the best way to proceed? Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>>Ricardo
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>From: "Keith Briffa"
> >>>>To: ; "Eystein Jansen"
> >>>>Cc: ; "Ed Cook"

> >>>>Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 11:01 AM
> >>>>Subject: the regional section and MWP Figure
> >>>>
> >>>>> Guys
> >>>>> still need the SH temp bit from Ricardo/ED to edit and am
exploring
> >the
> >>>>MWP
> >>>>> Figure - but the concept still is unclear to me - but we agreed to
>do
> >a
> >>>>> plot like Tom's . The regional section is still a worry - I am
>happy
> >to
> >>>>> very briefly edit the section on NAO (possibly incorporate the
ENSO
> >>>>stuff )
> >>>>> but my understanding is that this section is best done (to
>incorporate
> >>>>also
> >>>>> the regional moisture work of Ed ) by Ricardo /Ed with input my
>Peck.
> >This
> >>>>> is still my opinion. I also would appreciate feedback re the
>regional
> >>>>> forcing section that I think we may have to drop - but perhaps
not.
> >>>>> Therefore I ask that when i get the SH temp stuff I will
incorporate
> >it
> >>>>but
> >>>>> that you guys (Peck, Ricardo, Ed and Eystein interacting over the
> >North
> >>>>> Atlantic bit) first review and redo the regional section .
> >>>>> It is important to get feedback from Henry re the borehole stuff
and
> >>>>> involve Tom in the debate with all of us , of the value of the
>Figure
> >. In
> >>>>> meantime , will experiment with the Figure and review existing
text
> >and
> >>>>bullets
> >>>>> Keith
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Keith
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Professor Keith Briffa,
> >>>>> Climatic Research Unit
> >>>>> University of East Anglia
> >>>>> Norwich, NR4 7TJ, U.K.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Phone: +44-1603-593909
> >>>>> Fax: +44-1603-507784
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [1]http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/people/briffa/
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Attachment converted: Macintosh HD:Southern
> >>>>hemisphere2.doc (WDBN/«IC») (0008A6E0)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>Jonathan T. Overpeck
> >>>Director, Institute for the Study of Planet Earth
> >>>Professor, Department of Geosciences
> >>>Professor, Department of Atmospheric Sciences
> >>>
> >>>Mail and Fedex Address:
> >>>
> >>>Institute for the Study of Planet Earth
> >>>715 N. Park Ave. 2nd Floor
> >>>University of Arizona
> >>>Tucson, AZ 85721
> >>>direct tel: +1 520 622-9065
> >>>fax: +1 520 792-8795
> >>>[2]http://www.geo.arizona.edu/
> >>>[3]http://www.ispe.arizona.edu/
> >>>
> >>==================================
> >>Dr. Edward R. Cook
> >>Doherty Senior Scholar and
> >>Director, Tree-Ring Laboratory
> >>Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory
> >>Palisades, New York 10964 USA
> >>Email: drdendro@ldeo.columbia.edu
> >>Phone: 845-365-8618
> >>Fax: 845-365-8152
> >>==================================
> >
> >
> >--
> >Jonathan T. Overpeck
> >Director, Institute for the Study of Planet Earth
> >Professor, Department of Geosciences
> >Professor, Department of Atmospheric Sciences
> >
> >Mail and Fedex Address:
> >
> >Institute for the Study of Planet Earth
> >715 N. Park Ave. 2nd Floor
> >University of Arizona
> >Tucson, AZ 85721
> >direct tel: +1 520 622-9065
> >fax: +1 520 792-8795
> >[4]http://www.geo.arizona.edu/
> >[5]http://www.ispe.arizona.edu/
> >
> >Attachment converted: Macintosh HD:SHregteml 1.JPG (JPEG/«IC») (0008ADC3)
>
>
>--
>Jonathan T. Overpeck
>Director, Institute for the Study of Planet Earth
>Professor, Department of Geosciences
>Professor, Department of Atmospheric Sciences
>
>Mail and Fedex Address:
>
>Institute for the Study of Planet Earth
>715 N. Park Ave. 2nd Floor
>University of Arizona
>Tucson, AZ 85721
>direct tel: +1 520 622-9065
>fax: +1 520 792-8795
>[6]http://www.geo.arizona.edu/
>[7]http://www.ispe.arizona.edu/
--
Professor Keith Briffa,
Climatic Research Unit
University of East Anglia
Norwich, NR4 7TJ, U.K.
Phone: +44-1603-593909
Fax: +44-1603-507784
[8]http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/people/briffa/

--
Professor Keith Briffa,
Climatic Research Unit
University of East Anglia
Norwich, NR4 7TJ, U.K.

Phone: +44-1603-593909
Fax: +44-1603-507784
[9]http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/people/briffa/

References

1. http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/people/briffa/
2. http://www.geo.arizona.edu/
3. http://www.ispe.arizona.edu/
4. http://www.geo.arizona.edu/
5. http://www.ispe.arizona.edu/
6. http://www.geo.arizona.edu/
7. http://www.ispe.arizona.edu/
8. http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/people/briffa/
9. http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/people/briffa/