FromJonathan T. OverpeckDateSat, 24 Sep 2005 22:10:05 -0600
ToØyvind Paasche
CCKeith Briffa, Tim Osborn, Eystein Jansen
SubjectRe: Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re: Chapter 6 - Submitted Papers]
Hi all - let's see what Keith/Tim say about both papers. Eystein - can you call them on
Monday if we haven't heard from them. If they don't have one or both of the papers, then we
should ask Martin to delete from the chapter - Eystein, feel free to do this as soon as you
get feedback from Keith/Tim. Mysterious...

Thanks, Peck

Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 13:14:19 +0200
To: Eystein Jansen
From: Øyvind Paasche
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eystein-peck,

I think we agreed that the Wilson paper should be deleted, but i don't know why its
still in there. The Briffa paper is new to me (i think).

Cheers,

Øyvind

Hi Keith,see correspondance below. Just to make sure. is the Briffa et al. paper
submitted, or should it be deleted from the FOD? The ref to the Wilson et al. paper I
assume comes from Peck/Julie, who can handle the issue. Right, Peck?

Eystein

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Dear Eystein and Peck
Following the release of the first draft of the WG1-AR4 we have had a response from
Steve McIntyre (a name that should ring a bell) regarding unpublished literature in
Chapter 6. He also asks about access to data sets but that is not an IPCC function so is
easily dealt with.
The unpublished papers that he has picked up as not being available are:
Briffa, K.R., T.M. Melvin, V.V. Shishov, and et. al, 2005: Warm season temperatures
across northern Eurasia: a 2000-year tree-ring based study. Quaternary Science
Reviews(In preparation).
and
Wilson and al. 2005 (mentioned on page 6-31)
The first of these was I think meant to be deleted from the text here and we may have
made an error in missing that. The second is cited but does not appear in the reference
list so we did not pick it up as an unpublished paper that needed to be collected.
Could you please let me know:
1) are drafts for either of these papers available yet and if so can you send copies to
the TSU?
2) how do you expect to use these references in the second draft - remembering that we
can only use papers that are in press at that time and that the Briffa et al paper is
used quite a bit - e.g. on page 6-29.
I am attaching the correspondence with McIntyre below for your information but the only
issues you need to consider are those above, and we will handle any further interactions
with McIntyre from here.
Thanks
Martin

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Subject: Re: Chapter 6 - Submitted Papers
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 13:30:52 -0400
From: Steve McIntyre [1]
To: IPCC-WG1 [2]
References: <026101c5bd56$fbafb280$6402a8c0@herbert> [3]<432F2687.3030101@al.noaa.gov>
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It's possible that the references were inadvertently left in, in which case your
suggestion that a comment be pointed on the review form would obviously suffice.
However, it's equally possible that the authors intend to use these references and they
inadvertently failed to post them up on the website. If the latter, then they should ask
the authors to post up the references. Could you verify which applies with the authors
and, if the latter, take appropriate steps.


Additionally, I have attempted to locate van Ommen, Annals of Glaciology, 39, mentioned
in the same section. Can you confirm that this volume has either been printed or made
available electronically (as I am presently unable to locate wither). If not, then this
should be made available in a pdf form at the website.


I have been unable to locate supplementary information or data archives for several of
the articles posted at the pdf location for Chapter 6 and would appreciate assistance in
this regard.
1) Hegerl et al, submitted. Can you provide me with an ftp location for the proxy data
used in this study (which does not even list the proxies used) or post it at your
website.
2) D'Arrigo et al, submitted. Again, this data has not been archived at WDCP. Can you
provide me with an ftp location for the proxy data used in this study or post it at your
website.

Similarly, the SI to Rutherford et al, 2005 does not contain the Briffa et al. data set.
Again can you provide an ftp location for this dataset or otherwise provide it.

Thank you for your attention, Steve McIntyre



----- Original Message -----
From: [5]IPCC-WG1
To: [6]Steve McIntyre
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: Chapter 6 - Submitted Papers
Dear Dr McIntyre,
It would seem that the authors may have inadvertently left in the Wilson et al. and
Briffa et al. citations, as I do not have copies of the preprints for either. I
apologize for the discrepancy and have made note of this error for the authors for
correction of the next draft, but if you would also like to comment on this in your
review, please do so.
Best regards,
Melinda Tignor
Steve McIntyre wrote:

Thanks for the directions. I found 5 of them there. I was still unable to locate Briffa
et al, 2005 (QSR in prep) or Wilson and al. 2005 (mentioned on page 6-31). Could you
take a look for them. Thanks.


----- Original Message -----

From: [7]IPCC-WG1
To: [8]Steve McIntyre
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: Chapter 6 - Submitted Papers
Dear Mr McIntyre,
As mentioned on the Reviewer website, copies of unpublished literature may be downloaded
for your review. Papers for each chapter are found at the same website:
URL: [9]http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/restricted/review/FOR/
UserName: WG1-FOR
Password: 2005Nov04
Once inside the site, click on "Download Draft Chapters" on the left side of the page.
From here, scroll down the page where you downloaded the chapter to the last sentence,
"If you wish to see copies of unpublished papers cited in the draft chapters click here"
- click "here" and you will be taken to another page listing all the chapters with
unpublished literature and from clicking on the individual chapter you will be taken to
the list of unpublished literature.
Please let me know if I can be of further assistance.
Best regards,
Melinda Tignor
WGI TSU
Steve McIntyre wrote:

Dear Sirs,
The covering literature indicated that the website would provide access to submitted,
in-press, or otherwise unpublished papers and reports that are cited in the draft WG I
report. In connection with Chapter 6, I was unable to locate the following:
Briffa et al, 2005. ( presumably this is the paper denoted as in prep. in the
bibliography)
DArrigo et al, submitted
Hegerl et al, submitted
Smerdon et al 2005. JGR (in review)
Tett et al, submitted. Clim. Dyn. submitted.
Wahl and Ammann 2004. (in review)
Wilson and al, 2005 (referred to on page 6-31, but not in bibliography.

Could you please post these on the website or email me pdf's. For these unpublished
articles, could you also provide locations of FTP sites where the underlying data may be
reviewed.
Thank you for your attention,
Stephen McIntyre


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References

1. mailto:stephen.mcintyre@utoronto.ca
2. mailto:ipcc-wg1@al.noaa.gov
3. mailto:432F2687.3030101@al.noaa.gov
4. mailto:43303CC7.7080401@al.noaa.gov
5. mailto:ipcc-wg1@al.noaa.gov
6. mailto:stephen.mcintyre@utoronto.ca
7. mailto:ipcc-wg1@al.noaa.gov
8. mailto:stephen.mcintyre@utoronto.ca
9. http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/restricted/review/FOR/
10. mailto:ipcc-wg1@al.noaa.gov
11. mailto:ipcc-wg1@al.noaa.gov
12. mailto:ipcc-wg1@al.noaa.gov