FromMichael E. MannDateThu, 09 Feb 2006 12:07:02 -0500
ToTim Osborn
CCKeith Briffa
SubjectRe: paper in this Friday's Science

Guys,

A final revised version attached. I'm expecting the embargo to lift at
midnight east coast U.S., but let me know if you hear otherwise. I will
make sure the science website has posted the paper before posting myself...

mike

Tim Osborn wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> thanks for putting this together, Mike. It is a nice summary plus
> drawing out of the important strands etc. I especially like "might be
> likened in shape to a certain implement used in a popular North
> American winter sport" - Keith thinks you must mean a "ski"?
>
> The only negative thing I have to say is that you get in a couple of
> "digs" at the sceptics which might unnecessarily rankle readers. e.g.
> *astronomers* Soon and Baliunas; *unbridled* cherry picking. Still,
> it's your name that's attached to this piece, so it's up to you to dig
> if you want.
>
> Cheers and thanks again
>
> Tim
>
> At 13:42 09/02/2006, Michael E. Mann wrote:
>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>> Maybe Science can still fix (at least, the online version?). I
>> wouldn't lose sleep over this though. As typos go, its relatively minor.
>>
>> I must confess that I scavanged a figure off your page proofs. As the
>> piece won't go online until after the article goes up on Science's
>> website, shouldn't matter what the source was though...
>>
>> I've attached the piece in word format. Hyperlinks are still there,
>> but not clickable in word format. I've already given it a good
>> go-over w/ Gavin, Stefan, and William Connelley (our internal "peer
>> review" process at RC), so I think its in pretty good shape. Let me
>> know if any comments...
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Tim Osborn wrote:
>>
>>> Bugger. You read and re-read the manuscript and the proofs and
>>> *still* you miss things! Yes, it should be 1856. Thanks for
>>> spotting this.
>>>
>>> I didn't reply yet about RealClimate because I thought Keith or I
>>> would have to prepare something and wasn't sure if we'd have time
>>> (IPCC deadlines!), but as you've done the work instead, that's great
>>> - though we'd like to see it beforehand if possible. Did you
>>> need/want a copy of a figure or have you got hold of one from
>>> Science/journalist?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> At 19:53 08/02/2006, Michael E. Mann wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tim/Keith,
>>>>
>>>> I've worked up an article for RC to go online when the embargo is
>>>> lifted. Will send later when finalized. One issue came up in an
>>>> interview w/ a writer at Science, and I didn't know the answer. Is
>>>> the shorter reference period you mention in caption of fig 3 really
>>>> 1865, or is that a typo (i.e., supposed to be 1856). I couldn't
>>>> think of a reason for why the latter date would be used, and
>>>> guessed that "65" just got transposed accidentally? Please let me
>>>> know if you can what the answer is. Its a minor point, but nice to
>>>> get things right if possible...
>>>>
>>>> mike
>>>>
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>>>> Michael E. Mann
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>>>> Director, Earth System Science Center (ESSC)
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> Dr Timothy J Osborn
>>> Climatic Research Unit
>>> School of Environmental Sciences, University of East Anglia
>>> Norwich NR4 7TJ, UK
>>>
>>> e-mail: t.osborn@uea.ac.uk
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Michael E. Mann
>> Associate Professor
>> Director, Earth System Science Center (ESSC)
>>
>> Department of Meteorology Phone: (814) 863-4075
>> 503 Walker Building FAX: (814) 865-3663
>> The Pennsylvania State University email:
>> mann@psu.edu
>> University Park, PA 16802-5013
>>
>> http://www.met.psu.edu/dept/faculty/mann.htm
>>
>>
>
> Dr Timothy J Osborn
> Climatic Research Unit
> School of Environmental Sciences, University of East Anglia
> Norwich NR4 7TJ, UK
>
> e-mail: t.osborn@uea.ac.uk
> phone: +44 1603 592089
> fax: +44 1603 507784
> web: http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/
> sunclock: http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/sunclock.htm
>


--
Michael E. Mann
Associate Professor
Director, Earth System Science Center (ESSC)

Department of Meteorology Phone: (814) 863-4075
503 Walker Building FAX: (814) 865-3663
The Pennsylvania State University email: mann@psu.edu
University Park, PA 16802-5013

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