| From | Michael E. Mann | Date | Fri, 12 May 2006 8:10:00 -0600 |
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| To | Tim Osborn, Keith Briffa, Phil Jones, Michael E. Mann, Scott Rutherford | ||
| Subject | Re: FW: Ruherford et al 2005 | ||
| hi tim. personally, I don't see why you should make any concessions for this moron. By the way, our supplementary site (now on scott's computer) doesn't block any ip#s. another lie.. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Tim Osborn Subj: FW: Ruherford et al 2005 Date: Fri May 12, 2006 8:10 am Size: 4K To: Keith Briffa Thought you might be interested in the following. I *am* going to provide the list of MXD sites requested, but honestly haven't had time to put it together this his request. Clearly the 2-week delay was too long for him! Still, at least I'm not (yet) described as "juvenile"! :-) Tim >From: "Steve McIntyre" >To: "Andrew Weaver" >Cc: "Tim Osborn" >Subject: FW: Ruherford et al 2005 >Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 09:54:37 -0400 > >Dear Andrew, >Rutherford et al 2005 states that supplementary information is available at >http://fox.rwu.edu/~rutherfo/supplements/jclim2003a. > >First, in passing, Scott Rutherford has blocked the IP address of the >computer that I regularly use from access to that site (I had previously >been blocked from Mann's FTP site.) While I have been able to have someone >else send me the data, I'm sure that such petty behavior is inconsistent >with Journal of Climate access policies and I request that you ask your >authors to stop such juvenile behavior insofar as it affects the Journal of >Climate. > >Second, the referenced website does NOT contain the MXD data, but only >includes a link to "Ask Tim Osborn". As you can see from the attached >correspondence, Osborn has undertaken to provide the requested information, >but the article certainly implies - and I am sure that that this was your >understanding as editor - that the data would be readily available. In this >case, even a simple listing of the sites has not been provided after nearly >2 weeks. (I might add that I initially requested a listing of the sites from >a coauthor nearly 2 years ago.) > >In order to comply with the apparent undertakings of Rutherford et al, I >think that you should arrange for a less ad hoc method of providing the >supplementary information. > >Regards, > >Steve McIntyre > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Tim Osborn [mailto:t.osborn@uea.ac.uk] >Sent: April 26, 2006 10:09 AM >To: Steve McIntyre >Cc: Andrew Weaver; Keith Briffa >Subject: Re: Ruherford et al 2005 > > >Dear Steve, > >I have just finished responding to Science about your latest request >to them concerning our recent paper, so I can now turn to your >request copied below. > >I can answer your first request immediately: > >The MXD data used in Rutherford et al. were *derived* from the >Schweingruber network, but aren't actually the raw site-by-site data >values. The reason why we didn't use the latter is that the >site-by-site MXD chronologies have only been processed using a >"traditional" approach to standardization that removes low-frequency >climate variations. Our age-band decomposition approach (Briffa et >al., 2001, JGR), which retains more low-frequency variability, had >only been applied at the regional-average level. So we gridded the >site-by-site chronologies onto a 5x5 grid and added to each grid box >the "missing" regional-scale low-frequency information identified by >comparing the age-band and traditionally-standardized results at a >regional scale. > >I will respond with information and/or data to your requests (2)-(4) soon. > >Regards > >Tim > >At 19:37 18/04/2006, Steve McIntyre wrote: > >Dear Tim, I presume that the sites used in the MXD network in > >Rutherford et al., Journal of Climate 2005 came from the > >SChweingruber network. Could you provide me with (1) confirmation as > >to whether this is the case; (2) identification of the sites; (3) > >the protocol for site selection from the larger Schweingruber > >network; (4) a URL for any data or dataversions not available in the > >Schweingruber network at WDCP. Regards, Steve McIntyre > >Dr Timothy J Osborn >Climatic Research Unit >School of Environmental Sciences, University of East Anglia >Norwich NR4 7TJ, UK > >e-mail: t.osborn@uea.ac.uk >phone: +44 1603 592089 >fax: +44 1603 507784 >web: http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/ >sunclock: http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/sunclock.htm Dr Timothy J Osborn Climatic Research Unit School of Environmental Sciences, University of East Anglia Norwich NR4 7TJ, UK e-mail: t.osborn@uea.ac.uk phone: +44 1603 592089 fax: +44 1603 507784 web: http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/ sunclock: http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/sunclock.htm | |||