From	Michael E. Mann	Date	Wed, 06 Sep 2006 08:34:17 -0400
To	Tim Osborn
CC	Scott Rutherford, Keith Briffa
Subject	Re: followup
Tim, thanks a bunch. This all sounds very good. We're finalizing a pseudoproxy paper for JGR based on the various tests w/ the CSM simulation I showed in Wengen, and will send you a guys a copy once its finalized. A natural followup would be a similar analysis applying to the ECHO-G simulation, and we would enjoy collaborating w/ you and Keith on this. We were also thinking of doing some "mixed signal" analyses, where the pseudoproxies represent a combinatiiion of temp and precip (including limiting cases of pure temp and pure precip). This might be a natural way to incorporate the ECHO-G results. We'll let you know if we have any trouble w/ format, etc. thanks again, mike Tim Osborn wrote: > Hi Mike and Scott, > > below are details about accessing the ECHO-G data from the SO&P > web-archive. There are time series plots of various variables and > regions that might be useful for a quick overview of what's going on, > plus the temperature fields (and fields for other variables) can be > accessed in netCDF format (hope that format is ok, if not I can make a > conversion for you but that won't be till next week). > > I'd like to add to Keith's reasons why we'd like to be involved in the > outcome of analysis of these data. The extra reason is that we > (Keith/me) are free to use these data and thus by extension you can > too provided we collaborate. Fidel Gonzalez-Rouco or GKSS aren't yet > ready to make them completely open access, preferring to consider each > 3rd party request and decide on that basis. I did ask Eduardo Zorita > about making them available for pseudo-proxy challenge after the > Wengen meeting, but I haven't yet followed up to find out his > decision. The bottom line is that they might well make them available > for you to do your own thing with, but if you are happy to collaborate > with us then you can definitely use them immediately. > > The data are available from here: > > http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/projects/soap/data/model/echog.htm > > Near the bottom you will find the link to the password-protected model > data (this includes the time series plots too). The login details for > this are: > > soapech > od2004 > > The 2m air temperature is 3rd in the list of variables. 'Erik' is the > simulation will all forcings, 'Enat' just has natural forcings through > to the present. The easiest way to get all the monthly 2m air > temperature fields for Erik is to use 'wget'. There is help for how > to use 'wget' if you aren't familiar. > > The site was designed to be fairly self explanatory; hope you find it > so. If not, please just ask. > > Best wishes > > Tim > > At 18:30 05/09/2006, Michael E. Mann wrote: > >> sure thing Keith, thanks. and of course, we'll keep you fully in the >> loop on our findings. I'm copying to Scott, as he's the one who will >> probably obtain the data from Tim. Thanks again, got to go teach now... >> >> mike >> >> Keith Briffa wrote: >> >>> mike >>> simply missed the first and been away since second message - >>> forwarding to Tim to arrange access to these data ( I am assuming >>> Hans will not mind but best not say anything yet ) we wish to be >>> involved in this follow up please as it will be a SOAP product and >>> Tim (especially) and I did stuff to get these data produced and in a >>> form for dissemination. I am rushing now to Austria for a week . >>> cheers >>> Keith >>> >>> At 13:51 28/08/2006, you wrote: >>> >>>> Keith, I didn't receive a response to my previous inquiry so I'm >>>> resending. Also copying to Phil in case you haven't been reading >>>> email for some reason. >>>> >>>> We would like to run our RegEM analysis through the ECHO-G >>>> simulation results. It appears that the results of that simulation >>>> have been widely disseminated to other groups, and yet they are not >>>> publically available to our knowledge. >>>> >>>> As per your previous suggestion, we would be grateful if we could >>>> acquire the surface temperature field for the simulation from you >>>> for some analyses we're doing. >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance for any help, >>>> >>>> mike >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Michael E. Mann >>>> Associate Professor >>>> Director, Earth System Science Center (ESSC) >>>> >>>> Department of Meteorology Phone: (814) 863-4075 >>>> 503 Walker Building FAX: (814) 865-3663 >>>> The Pennsylvania State University email: mann@psu.edu >>>> University Park, PA 16802-5013 >>>> >>>> http://www.met.psu.edu/dept/faculty/mann.htm >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Professor Keith Briffa, >>> Climatic Research Unit >>> University of East Anglia >>> Norwich, NR4 7TJ, U.K. >>> >>> Phone: +44-1603-593909 >>> Fax: +44-1603-507784 >>> >>> http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/people/briffa/ >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Michael E. Mann >> Associate Professor >> Director, Earth System Science Center (ESSC) >> >> Department of Meteorology Phone: (814) 863-4075 >> 503 Walker Building FAX: (814) 865-3663 >> The Pennsylvania State University email: mann@psu.edu >> University Park, PA 16802-5013 >> >> http://www.met.psu.edu/dept/faculty/mann.htm >> > > Dr Timothy J Osborn, Academic Fellow > Climatic Research Unit > School of Environmental Sciences, University of East Anglia > Norwich NR4 7TJ, UK > > e-mail: t.osborn@uea.ac.uk > phone: +44 1603 592089 > fax: +44 1603 507784 > web: http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/ > sunclock: http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/sunclock.htm > > **Norwich -- City for Science: > **Hosting the BA Festival 2-9 September 2006 > -- Michael E. Mann Associate Professor Director, Earth System Science Center (ESSC) Department of Meteorology Phone: (814) 863-4075 503 Walker Building FAX: (814) 865-3663 The Pennsylvania State University email: mann@psu.edu University Park, PA 16802-5013 http://www.met.psu.edu/dept/faculty/mann.htm