From	Michael E. Mann	Date	Wed, 04 Jun 2008 09:47:02 -0400
To	Phil Jones
CC	Gavin Schmidt
Subject	Re: A couple of things
Hi Phil, Seems to me that CRU should charge him a fee for the service. He shouldn't be under the assumption that he has the right to demand reports be scanned in for him on a whim. CRU should require reasonable monetary compensation for the labor, effort (and postage!). It this were a colleague acting in good faith, I'd say do it at no cost. But of, course, he's not. He's not interested in the truth here, he's just looking for another way to try to undermine confidence in our science. Henry's review looks helpful and easy to deal w/. Will be interesting to see the other reviews. I guess you're going to get your moneys' worth out of your scanner, mike Phil Jones wrote: Gavin, Mike, 1. This email came to CRU last night. From: Steve McIntyre [[1] mailto:stephen.mcintyre@utoronto.ca] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 5:09 PM To: [2]alan.ovenden@uea.ac.uk Subject: Farmer et al 1989 Dear Sir, Can you please send me a pdf of the Farmer et al 1989, cited in Folland andPArker 1995, which, in turn is cited in the IPCC Fourth Assessment Report. Thanks, Steve McIntyre Farmer, G., Wigley, T. M. L., Jones, P. D. and Salmon, M., 1989 'Documenting and explaining recent global-mean temperature changes'. Climatic Research Unit, Norwich, Final Report to NERC, UK, Contract GR3/6565 (unpublished) CRU has just the one copy of this! We've just got a new scanner for a project, so someone here is going to try this out - and scan the ~150pp. I'm doing this as this is one of the project reports that I wished I'd written up. It's got all the bucket equations, assessments of the accuracy of the various estimates for the parameters that have to be made. It also includes discussion of the shapes (seasonal cycles) of the residual seasonal cycles you get from different types of buckets prior to WW2 relative to intakes. It also includes a factor they haven't considered at all yet - ship speed and its changes over time. This turns out to important. It has a lot more than Folland and Parker (1995). Doubt it will shut them up for long - but it will justify your faith in those doing the SST work that we have considered everything we could think of. We'll also put it up on our web site at the same time. 2. Reviews of the Holocene epic. Got this today - so a journal still working by post! Here is Henry's review. Possibly the other two might involve hand-written comments on hard copies. Will get these scanned when they arrive and send around if necessary. Dear Phil I have today posted two referees' reports to you and the verdict of accepted subject to taking account of referees' comments. These two reports do not include the report of Henry Diaz which has just been sent to you directly. Please take his comments into account too. John A Matthews Emeritus Professor of Physical Geography Editor, The Holocene Department of Geography School of the Environment and Society University of Wales Swansea Singleton Park SWANSEA SA2 8PP Prof. Phil Jones Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090 School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784 University of East Anglia Norwich Email [3]p.jones@uea.ac.uk NR4 7TJ UK ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Michael E. Mann Associate Professor Director, Earth System Science Center (ESSC) Department of Meteorology Phone: (814) 863-4075 503 Walker Building FAX: (814) 865-3663 The Pennsylvania State University email: [4]mann@psu.edu University Park, PA 16802-5013 [5]http://www.met.psu.edu/dept/faculty/mann.htm References 1. mailto:stephen.mcintyre@utoronto.ca 2. mailto:alan.ovenden@uea.ac.uk 3. mailto:p.jones@uea.ac.uk 4. mailto:mann@psu.edu 5. http://www.met.psu.edu/dept/faculty/mann.htm