From	Keith Briffa	Date	Mon Jun 23 09:47:54 2008
To	Tim Osborn, Phil Jones, Caspar Ammann
Subject	Re: Fwd: IPCC FOIA Request
Caspar I have been of the opinion right from the start of these FOI requests, that our private , inter-collegial discussion is just that - PRIVATE . Your communication with individual colleagues was on the same basis as that for any other person and it discredits the IPCC process not one iota not to reveal the details. On the contrary, submitting to these "demands" undermines the wider scientific expectation of personal confidentiality . It is for this reason , and not because we have or have not got anything to hide, that I believe none of us should submit to these "requests". Best wishes Keith At 09:01 23/06/2008, Tim Osborn wrote: Hi Caspar, I've just had a quick look at CA. They seem to think that somehow it is an advantage to send material outside the formal review process. But *anybody* could have emailed us directly. It is in fact a disadvantage! If it is outside the formal process then we could simply ignore it, whereas formal comments had to be formally considered. Strange that they don't realise this and instead argue for some secret conspiracy that they are excluded from! I'm not even sure if you sent me or Keith anything, despite McIntyre's conviction! But I'd ignore this guy's request anyway. If we aren't consistent in keeping our discussions out of the public domain, then it might be argued that none of them can be kept private. Apparently, consistency of our actions is important. Best wishes Tim At 07:37 23/06/2008, P.Jones@uea.ac.uk wrote: Caspar, In Zurich at MeteoSwiss for a meeting this week. It doesn't discredit IPCC! Cheers Phil > FYI, more later. > Caspar > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Brian Lynch >> Date: June 21, 2008 3:30:28 PM MDT >> To: ammann@ucar.edu >> Subject: IPCC FOIA Request >> Reply-To: killballyowen2003@yahoo.co.uk >> >> Dear Sir, >> >> I have read correspondence on web about your letter to the in >> relation to expert comments on IPCC chapter 6 sent directly by you >> to Keith Briffa, sent outside the formal review process. >> >> The refusal to give these documents tends to discredit you and the >> IPCC in the eyes of the public, >> >> Could I suggest that you make your letter and documents pubic. I >> would be very glad if you gave me a copy and oblige, >> >> Yours faithfully, >> >> Brian Lynch >> Galway >> >> Sent from Yahoo! Mail. >> A Smarter Email. > > Caspar M. Ammann > National Center for Atmospheric Research > Climate and Global Dynamics Division - Paleoclimatology > 1850 Table Mesa Drive > Boulder, CO 80307-3000 > email: ammann@ucar.edu tel: 303-497-1705 fax: 303-497-1348 > > > > Dr Timothy J Osborn, Academic Fellow Climatic Research Unit School of Environmental Sciences University of East Anglia Norwich NR4 7TJ, UK e-mail: t.osborn@uea.ac.uk phone: +44 1603 592089 fax: +44 1603 507784 web: [1]http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/ sunclock: [2]http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/sunclock.htm -- Professor Keith Briffa, Climatic Research Unit University of East Anglia Norwich, NR4 7TJ, U.K. Phone: +44-1603-593909 Fax: +44-1603-507784 [3]http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/people/briffa/ References 1. http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/ 2. http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/sunclock.htm 3. http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/people/briffa/