From	Michael E. Mann	Date	Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:46:42 -0400
To	Phil Jones
CC	Gavin Schmidt
Subject	Re: thanks and one question
thanks Phil, I wondered where this completely false claim was coming with. Are these people really so clueless that they don't even understand that I have nothing to do with this whatsoever. Pretty much tells you everything you need to do. I never acknowledge emails from people I don't know, about topics that are in any way sensitive. this is a perfect example of something that goes right to the trash bin, mike On Oct 5, 2009, at 5:55 AM, Phil Jones wrote: Gavin, Mike, Thanks for this! I assume you are both aware of this prat - Neil Craig, see below. Keith won't be responding. Checking facts doesn't seem important these days. As CA threads aren't publications this is difficult for non scientists. I am going further over one email I got at the weekend - see also below. Typical of Sonia - although she now seems to only be an emeritus reader! Cheers Phil Return-path: <[1]CrgN143@aol.com> From: [2]CrgN143@aol.com Full-name: CrgN143 Message-ID: <[3]d03.64b01875.37f87aa4@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 06:00:04 EDT Subject: Tree rings - accusation that you were solely responsible. To: [4]k.briffa@uea.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1254564004" X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5045 Professor Briffa, I have written a couple of blogs on the current report by Steve McIntyre that the data used by Mann to "prove" the hockey Stick was fabricated. This & the following day's [5]http://a-place-to-stand.blogspot.com/2009/10/global-warming-proven-deliberate-fraud.html . As a result I have received this email from somebody I am not aquainted with throwing the entire blame on you. This seems improbable to me & possibly an alarmist damage limitation exercise. If you wish to comment I would be happy for you to do so. "Please note: Steve McIntyre's post concerns work by climate scientist Keith Briffa and not Michael Mann. You will probably wish to correct your post. Cheers Avisame" I have posted this as an update with my reply: "My understanding is that while Briffa did the tree ring measurement, Mann, in his paper, chose to choose 12 atypical tree rings out of at least 34 to fabricate the global warming trend. My assumption is that Mann is responsible for fabrications in his own paper & that this is a damage limitation exercise. I am open to correction on this & indeed have emailed Mr Briffa to see. " Neil Craig You may be interested in my political blog [6]http://a-place-to-stand.blogspot.com/ We received this through our enquiries desk. I assume that you are aware of this person, including those copied on the message. If we are to respond, it would be to indicate that there are multiple sources of supporting evidence and that we continue to place our confidence in the international scientific assessment process. This confidence has proven to be well placed. Roger _____________________________________________________________________ From: Sonja A Boehmer-Christiansen <[7]Sonja.B-C@hull.ac.uk> Date: 2 October 2009 18:09:39 GMT+01:00 To: Stephanie Ferguson <[8]stephanie.ferguson@ukcip.org.uk> Cc: "Peiser, Benny" <[9]B.J.Peiser@ljmu.ac.uk>, Patrick David Henderson <[10]pdhenderson18@googlemail.com>, Christopher Monckton <[11]monckton@mail.com> Subject: RE: Please take note of potetially serious allegations of scientific 'fraud' by CRU and Met Office Dear Stephanie I expect that a great deal of UKCIP work is based on the data provided by CRU (as does the work of the IPCC and of course UK climate policy). Some of this, very fundamentally, would now seem to be open to scientific challenge, and may even face future legal enquiries. It may be in the interest of UKCIP to inform itself in good time and become a little more 'uncertain' about its policy advice. Perhaps you can comment on the following and pass the allegations made on to the relevant people. It is beyond my expertise to assess the claims made, but they would fit into my perception of the whole 'man-made global warming' cum energy policy debate. I know several of the people involved personally and have no reason to doubt their sincerity and honour as scientists, though I am also aware of their highly critical (of IPCC science) policy positions. I could also let you have statements by Steve McIntyre and Ross McKitrick. Ross McKitrick currently teaches at Westminister Business School and who is fully informed about the relevant issues. He recently addressed a meeting of about 50 people in London. Best wishes Sonja B-C Dr.Sonja A.Boehmer-Christiansen Reader Emeritus, Department of Geography Hull University Editor, Energy&Environment Multi-Science ([12] www.multi-science.co.uk) HULL HU6 7RX Phone:(0044)1482 465369/465385 Fax: (0044) 1482 466340 TWO copied pieces follow, both relate to CRU and UK climate policy a. THE MET OFFICE AND CRU'S YAMAL SCANDAL: EXPLAIN OR RESIGN " Jennifer Marohasy <[13]jennifermarohasy@jennifermarohasy.com> Leading UK Climate Scientists Must Explain or Resign, Jennifer Marohasy < <[14] http://jennifermarohasy.com/blog/2009/09/leading-uk-climate-scientists -> [15]http://jennifermarohasy.com/blog/2009/09/leading-uk-climate-scientists - must-explain-or-resign/> Prof. Phil Jones Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090 School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784 University of East Anglia Norwich Email [16]p.jones@uea.ac.uk NR4 7TJ UK ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Michael E. Mann Professor Director, Earth System Science Center (ESSC) Department of Meteorology Phone: (814) 863-4075 503 Walker Building FAX: (814) 865-3663 The Pennsylvania State University email: [17]mann@psu.edu University Park, PA 16802-5013 website: [18]http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~mann/Mann/index.html "Dire Predictions" book site: [19]http://www.essc.psu.edu/essc_web/news/DirePredictions/index.html References Visible links 1. mailto:CrgN143@aol.com 2. mailto:CrgN143@aol.com 3. mailto:d03.64b01875.37f87aa4@aol.com 4. mailto:k.briffa@uea.ac.uk 5. http://a-place-to-stand.blogspot.com/2009/10/global-warming-proven-deliberate-fraud.html 6. http://a-place-to-stand.blogspot.com/ 7. mailto:Sonja.B-C@hull.ac.uk 8. mailto:stephanie.ferguson@ukcip.org.uk 9. mailto:B.J.Peiser@ljmu.ac.uk 10. mailto:pdhenderson18@googlemail.com 11. mailto:monckton@mail.com 12. http://www.multi-science.co.uk/ 13. mailto:jennifermarohasy@jennifermarohasy.com 14. http://jennifermarohasy.com/blog/2009/09/leading-uk-climate-scientists 15. http://jennifermarohasy.com/blog/2009/09/leading-uk-climate-scientists 16. mailto:p.jones@uea.ac.uk 17. mailto:mann@psu.edu 18. http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~mann/Mann/index.html 19. http://www.essc.psu.edu/essc_web/news/DirePredictions/index.html Hidden links: 20. http://www.met.psu.edu/dept/faculty/mann.htm