From	Olga Solomina	Date	Mon, 6 Feb 2006 11:09:24 +0300
To	Jonathan T. Overpeck, Eystein Jansen
CC	Ricardo Villalba, Keith Briffa, Valerie Masson-Delmotte
Subject	glacier box sod
Dear Eystein and Peck, Many thanks for your relpy and contribution for the glacier box. Everything is fine with me except for the sentence: "Comparing the ongoing retreat of glaciers with the reconstructed records, it is evident that the current global pattern is unprecedented within the Holocene, as there is no known period with a global homogenous trend of retreating glaciers over centennial and shorter timescales." The reason of my disagreement is the following: the resolution and the spatial and temporal coverage of the Holocene glacial records is not enough to compare it seriousely at the century level. For most of regions we even cannot estimate the synchroniety of the records. Looking at the figure a reader will see that there was actually a period with "a global homogenous trend of retreating glaciers" during at least a millennium (at least 7000-8000 bp) - not a century like now! To resolve this problem we can discuss in a braoder audience and ask the opinion of more experts if you wish - I can think of Luckman, Nesje, Grove, Porter, Karlen. I corrected a little the second paragraph - removed three references - they are not used in our picture and, in fact not that good in terms of real reconstructions. I think we should stress clearly that the records from Scandinavia is now the most reliable and detailed. Regards, olga ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eystein Jansen" To: "Olga Solomina" Cc: "Jonathan Overpeck" Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 3:04 AM Subject: Fwd: Re: glacier box Dear Olga, both Peck and I like the new version, both figure and shorter text. Please find enclosed a suggestion from us with some revisions, one file with track changes, one with all changes accepted.I have added a little to your short text, but not much. If you are happy with this, please send the final version inserted into the template of the SOD we sent out so that the style is correct, the figure separately, and an endnote file with references. Best wishes and thanks for all your efforts, Eystein -- ______________________________________________________________ Eystein Jansen Professor/Director Bjerknes Centre for Climate Research and Dep. of Earth Science, Univ. of Bergen All?gaten 55 N-5007 Bergen NORWAY e-mail: eystein.jansen@geo.uib.no Phone: +47-55-583491 - Home: +47-55-910661 Fax: +47-55-584330 Attachment Converted: "c:\eudora\attach\glboxsodso.doc"